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Is Counter-Strike Source Dead?

INSIDER ESPORTS -- Kai talks about the 'death' of Counter Strike: Source.

Is Counter-Strike Source dead?

Many have asked this question since the closing of the Championship Gaming Series.

Having picked up Source after a seven month break which included a brief stint in both 1.6 and World of Warcraft, it came to my attention that the skill level of the players has dropped tremendously compared to the days of Source being aired on TV.

During that same period, Source LAN tournaments were at an all-time high and players seemed to have more skill on both the professional and amateur scene.

Since the demise of CGS, most players have returned to 1.6 including American player fRoD, warden, da_bears, zid and so many more. Of course, with the players returning to the older game, it left the Source scene to once again live in the shadows and to be forgotten until another go around with TV, if that should ever occur.

The players who chose not to return to 1.6 either took a break from the game to focus on their own personal life, or found source teams to compete with.

Nickn0it, a star AWPer for NY.3D in the CGS, has taken time away to focus on college. Rambo an ex-player for both Complexity and Team 3D has been dedicating time playing Source instead of returning to 1.6 like his former teammates, as well as doing shoutcasting and now “endorsing” the company MaxFrag.

At one point in time, the teams that were most commonly seen in CEVO P for Source were the same teams that competed in the CGS.  Today, if you looked at the CEVO P teams, you would see different teams every year besides the common ones such as x3o and Dynamic.

While many organizations continue to hold tournaments for Source, no one can deny that most of the attention has gone back to 1.6.

The first time that ESEA will hold playoffs on LAN and it’s for 1.6. News that players are being picked up by teams are usually being made by 1.6.

When Cyber Revolution picked up a Source team with big names on the roster, which include clowN, mOE, Ramb0, mustang, pOs, and warmach1ne, who covered that besides their own site or IRC? Not a lot of sites.
When Eximius picked up sasquatch, ChEekz, kurridGe!, anger and railm0, who covered that? Not a lot of sites.

When EG picked up former coL players’ fRoD, warden, storm and hanes to play with n0thing in 1.6, it seemed to hit every site imaginable. Yes, they were players known for what they’ve done, but that doesn’t change the point that 1.6 gets much more hype than Source does.

Everyone argues that Source takes no skill and that 1.6 is harder. I will agree that 1.6 is harder, but have you ever tried to pick up a game, which you’ve never played before and be good at it?

If you go into any pub, you will find players that don’t get any kills at all in both versions of Counter Strike. It’s not something that only occurs in 1.6, it occurs in Source too.

Source doesn’t get the credit it deserves in my opinion.

Source is a game that still has much to improve on, but the same applies for all the bugs and glitches in 1.6. If Valve would stop consistently updating TF2 or L4D for about 2-3 weeks or even to fix steam every other day, they would have the time to find these bugs and make the game more complete.

To all you 1.6 players out there, stop bashing on Source. To all the Source players out there, stop hating on 1.6.

Hopefully in the future we will see a game with better, improved graphics with the 1.6 hit boxes so that both parties stop complaining about the lack of skill a game takes or how a game is less visual appealing than the other.

At the end of the day, the question still remains.

Is Counter Strike Source dead?

Comments: Add a Comment

quote#1 US shlorn 06/07/2009 - 16:59:25
this article really doesnt say anything. Its like a history lesson that we all know. sry to hate

quote#2 US fns* 07/07/2009 - 00:45:12
1.6 will always have it's charm since it's a classic, it's like the George Clooney and source is the Brad Pitt.

Source looks better, therefore it should have more viewers as an esport right?

If you think thoroughly though, 1.6 should realistically due to it being more popular by the masses of players that like that system more than the source engine style.

I think it has died down because they tried to market the viewers as people that don't play the game to try and watch it, but really I don't know many people who would watch a game without actually having some knowledge or playing it themselves. Therefore as an esport 1.6 has the most chance of success right now.

People are still hoping though that more people will make the jump to source, and yes the fallback of fRoD and others, in addition with CGS downfall was a huge drawback for the source scene, I personally think that source is just going to be the skipped generation of game.

Whatever VALVE or any other company has in store for us next will be huge, they will know from their mistakes that people like the old aspects of the game more, and mix it with amazing graphics and faster paced more exciting play for spectators to watch in awe, and until then I think it's just going to be a 65/35 basic attention ratio between 1.6 and source from the public eye.

quote#3 US RedruM 07/07/2009 - 08:52:50
I think its unfair to say source is dead in NA. 1.6 has lost its flare too. Its going to take some more leagues such as ECO to maybe run a couple good seasons to gather everyone back into it. Competitve CS altogether has fizzled out imo. I know after CAL died a lot of my friends from both 1.6 and source just stopped playing all together. It was the same once the CGS died for some of these pros they kinda just say forget it or went back to 1.6 like complexity and some of venom did. When you get to be as old as they are in their 20's im sure they look themselves in the mirror and say if theres no more money involved im gonna go out into the real world.

quote#4 US GCTVN-Justin 07/07/2009 - 13:52:19
In terms of league and "professional" attraction, yes I believe Counter-Strike Source has passed its prime (as well as 1.6, time to move on imo)

The majority of players for any game will always be the casual players, and in this example, show CS:S to be way bigger than Counter-Strike 1.6. Looking at steam stats right now (http://store.steampowered.com/stats/) CS:S has currently 30,000 more players. Its summer, its a little bit past noon, I would say almost at peak play time.

Some say its flawed, but another statistic: Look at Xfire. CS1.6 isn't even listed as a Top10 game (in minutes), yet CS:S sits at a cool 4th spot.

Professional competitive level needs a new game to reign. We have played Counter-strike (1.6 and/or Source) for over 10 years now - To me its boring.

quote#5 US RedruM 08/07/2009 - 11:30:27
The only place competitve gaming will have make run is on console because every kid has one.

No keyboard no mouse just a controller
No extra money or time to spend on upgrades
Handles everygame where as some games on PC not every1 can handle
Its mainstream due to MLG and its sponsors such as Dr.Pepper

Its just a clear choice.

quote#6 US GCTVN-Justin 08/07/2009 - 15:27:37
Originally posted by US RedruMThe only place competitve gaming will have make run is on console because every kid has one.



No keyboard no mouse just a controller

No extra money or time to spend on upgrades

Handles everygame where as some games on PC not every1 can handle

Its mainstream due to MLG and its sponsors such as Dr.Pepper



Its just a clear choice.


I absolutely agree

quote#7 US zamN 10/07/2009 - 19:16:50
Originally posted by US GCTVN-JustinIn terms of league and "professional" attraction, yes I believe Counter-Strike Source has passed its prime (as well as 1.6, time to move on imo)



The majority of players for any game will always be the casual players, and in this example, show CS:S to be way bigger than Counter-Strike 1.6. Looking at steam stats right now (http://store.steampowered.com/stats/) CS:S has currently 30,000 more players. Its summer, its a little bit past noon, I would say almost at peak play time.



Some say its flawed, but another statistic: Look at Xfire. CS1.6 isn't even listed as a Top10 game (in minutes), yet CS:S sits at a cool 4th spot.



Professional competitive level needs a new game to reign. We have played Counter-strike (1.6 and/or Source) for over 10 years now - To me its boring.


I hate to tell you this but no 1.6 players even use xfire..CSS players are notorious for using CSS so I would say that is very inaccurate.

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